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Thursday, February 02, 2006

LaShawn Barber: Race determines Intelligence

In typical provocative, yet sassy style, LaShawn bravely rejects liberal victomology once again by saying that some races are smarter than others. Because of RightFaith's current series on American education, her thoughts are most certainly worth considering. Here's a taste:
"Generally, some races are “smarter” than others....Black liberals are always accusing me of “dumping on black culture” and “putting down black folks” and other irritatingly vague charges, and no doubt they’ll do the same in this case. But it’s time to talk about it. I hate “affirmative action” and condescending “protected group” status.
Hating affirmative action but saying that race determines intelligence bucks current victimology. That's why I like reading LBC.

Oh, to dream that one day she'll link to me...

Thoughtful Readers Speak:
LaShawn is way off the mark with this. I don't have the time to get into it now. But there is no basis for this argument.
 
Yeah there's absolutely no basis for correlating race and intelligence except as a function of how persons of minority races in our country are far more likely to recieve substandard education in the first place.

It's important to understand that IQ tests do no measure any inherent mental quality or characteristic; they've always been an assessment of how far ahead or behind in their education one individual is compared to other individuals of the same age. The popular conception that IQ tests measure how "smart" you are is a myth.
 
As someone with a Sociology background with three minors in Psychology, Anthropology, and Criminal Justice ... I would like to say that I agree that LaShawn is WAY off. There is a less than 3% differences in the supposed races and they primarily deal with cosmetics. Any human science expert will tell you that what LaShawn is talking about has way more to do with environment, than genetics.
 
Most interestingly, the maximum detectable difference between mean IQ scores is far, far less than the average variation within each group, so statements like "Race determines intelligence" or "whites are smarter than blacks" are nonsense. Outright false. Given any single person, the racial composition of the group of people with higher scores and the group with lower scores are statistically identical.

People have been chasing after the myth of racial intelligence for two centuries. Stephen Jay Gould most recently exploded these myths and exposed this history in his book "The Mismeasure of Man."
 
We don't have affirmative action because women and minorities are somehow inferior to white males. We have affirmative action to counteract the bigot effect.

This is the kind of thinking that leads to Jews getting stuffed into ovens.
 
I think it'll be interesting to read her conclusions. She's a bright lady and not easy duped.

We have affirmative action, erica, because liberals think handouts based on race are more effective in creating equality than simply treating people equally.

Jews don't get stuffed into ovens anymore; but babies get aborted. How can you reject one and not the other. You are a contradiction my friend.
 
We have affirmative action, erica, because liberals think handouts based on race are more effective in creating equality than simply treating people equally.

If Americans actually did treat people equally, we wouldn't need AA. We actually did try it that way, you know - no affirmative action, just rely on people to treat each other with equality.

The result was a legacy of 150 years of slavery and discrimination and disenfranchisement of minorities in this country. I think we'll stick with affirmative action, thanks.
 
Right. We're all a big happy human family where everybody treats everybody else with respect. That's why my brother was picked on in school for being Filipino. He actually came home from first grade and asked me if he was black, since apparently the hicks in our hometown are so stupid they can't even get their ethnic slurs right.
 
chet, you are ignorant of history.

between the civil war and the early 1900's black culture and economic stability thrived even in most parts of the south. It wasn't until liberal welfare programs that their innovation declined and dependence upon government increased. this is what led to the current state.

erica, i'm sorry; that's sad. those knowing might have done better. too bad we don't all have are relationship with jesus.
 
It wasn't until liberal welfare programs that their innovation declined and dependence upon government increased.

This is truly a staggering assertion. Never mind seperate lunch counters; never mind being denied at the voting box; never mind equal work, less pay. Never mind lynch mobs; never mind white juries; never mind ghettos and the back of the bus.

Never mind all of that. The only thing that's ever sucked for black people is one government program mandating that hiring preference be given to equally-qualified black applicants, and only for companies that want to do business with the government.

Jeez, somebody call Martin Luther King Jr!
 
too bad we don't all have are relationship with jesus.

Since when has being Christian ever stopped anybody from being a jerk? In my experience, never.
 
"oh, black are all victims of an oppressive society, they all need handouts.....ooohhh...."

chet, victimology gets old.... what you explained did happen in some places. but i've depicted an accurate picture of history whether you choose to accept it or not.

erica, jesus changed my life and he can yours too. i bet that if you searched for God, you'd find him.
 
erica, jesus changed my life and he can yours too. i bet that if you searched for God, you'd find him.

Yes. I want to be just like you.
 
but i've depicted an accurate picture of history whether you choose to accept it or not.

Would you care to substantiate that claim? I think I'm pretty well on the record about the credibility I place on the statements of known liars.
 
I'm still boggled by the fact that you actually linked to such a bigot when just a few posts ago you were bragging about how you've never been racist.
 
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