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Tuesday, March 14, 2006

DefCon Attacks Dobson

This ad is in reality a declaration of war against the entire pro-family movement. The ad was paid for by the Campaign to Defend the Constitution or DefCon. Its advisory board includes the executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, a former director of the ACLU, the former president of the pro-abortion group NARAL, and a number of "religious Left" leaders, including a homosexual pastor.

DefCon is a project of the Tides Center, a clearinghouse for liberal money, which according to its website has distributed "nearly $400 million to thousands of nonprofits" in the last ten years. The Tides Center is funding DefCon to "become the premiere voice of Americans who are disturbed by the growing power of the religious right..."

The goal of DefCon is to depress religious conservatives by smearing good men like Dr. Dobson. They want to bring down the pro-family movement in the fallout of the Abramoff scandal, hoping values voters won’t go to the polls in November. If they succeed, liberals will not have to filibuster judges because they will have a majority in the Senate. And the Marriage Protection Amendment will be dead on arrival in a House run by Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-San Francisco). This ad is another sign of how low the left wing will stoop. From One Million Dads.

Thoughtful Readers Speak:
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood..." Hey Right Faith, God continue to bless you! My prayers go up for Dr. Dobson. How dare they! Also, I took long enough to get to you but, as soon as I got your comment in my email on the false rumor on Pepsi on my blog, I checked it out and pulled it off my blog. I stand corrected and I thank you.
Not that this is really on topic...

Martin Luther said that one must give up reason in order to have faith. You yourself have said that evil folks like me say things that SOUND wise but are really aren't. Think about that. Really think about it. That's pretty much the perfect defense if you want to keep a wrong idea around. People will say things that make a lot of sense and appear to be correct and wise, but it's wrong because I've forseen it and I say so and if you don't believe me you're going to be tortured for all eternity. Satan will try and tell you that 2+2=4, but he's tricksy and will do anything to try and make you stray from the path.

Feel free to keep living in Magic Land. Just do the rest of us a favor and stop trying to make us live there.
The same thing could be said to you, erica. What makes you think that conservatives like JR want to live in the world that you want to create?

Supporting traditional marriage between men and women, and supporting the traditional family where children have a mother and a father are not extreme positions, they are the norm. Left-wing radicals are trying desperately to redefine what is normal, though. Fortunately, whenever the people have a choice, the radicals on the Left are defeated.
Hey 'da rock, thanks. there is so much bad information to choose from, it's no wonder we get as much right as we do. :)

erica, can you provide a citation for that martin luther reference? I'd be interested in learning more about it.

oh, erica, I was quoting the bible when I said, "The Colossians to whom Paul wrote were adding messages onto the Gospel of Jesus Christ so he wrote, "See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world, rather than on Christ Jesus....Such regularations [sic] indeed have an appearance of wisdom...but they lack any value..." (Colossians 2:8 & 23). The exclusive message of the Gospel not to be mixed; God guards his identity as the only one to whom we must worship."

Erica, you may have another 60 or so years to consider your opinion before you die. Or, you may have about 10 minutes. But, when you die, what will be the point of being right? Aren't our attempts to assign meaning to a purposeless life really attempts to placate a need for something bigger than ourselves? Hmm...that need for purpose being common to man, I question where did that need come from? Unless there is a God, isn't life ultimately futile?
erica said:

"Feel free to keep living in Magic Land."

How do you know that you are not the one living in some kind of Magic Land?
I blogged about this topic recently myself. The attacks on Dobson are particularly appalling. They've got nothing on Dobson except insinuations.

I've visited your site before, and like it. I'll add you to my blogroll.
To answer your last question, JR, yes, life without God is ultimately futile if you are measuring the worth of life based upon an idea of universal significance. What I mean by that is that you define meaning in the sense that life has an ultimate purpose, an end, a goal. Without God, there is no definiable ultimate goal. I, however, use a different definition of meaning. My life is full of meaning because I perceive it to be full of meaning. It's a tautological nihilism that I know you disagree with, but I think it's important to understand that you are correct if you subscribe to the sort of meaning that you do.

And, whole wheat bagel: by definition, if you call something traditional, it connotes a feeling of normalcy. What our culture is going through is a paradigm shift in which the "traditional values" of which you speak are being pushed aside by some of the culture, whereas the others are holding onto their traditional values. What you are essentially doing is refusing to go along with the paradigm shift, and you have every right to do so. But, at some point, you'll have to admit that those values are traditional only within the set of beliefs to which you hold. They won't (and probably aren't) traditional to a lot of people in this world.
"Unless there is a God, isn't life ultimately futile?"

No. My life has worth simply because I give it worth. Nothing has meaning but what we give it, but that's good enough. I'm sorry if your life is so crappy you need something outside yourself to give it meaning.

You've hit on a very fundamental point. Once we're dead, what's the point? I'm certainly not going to care after I'm dead. And if you want a meaning or a purpose there is a good one. This life is all there is, so we should make it as nice as possible for as many people as possible.

"Left-wing radicals are trying desperately to redefine what is normal, though."

So what? What is considered normal changes all the time. It used to be normal to treat black people like livestock. Tradition is not synonymous with good. Neither is change, of course.
EDITORS Observation: Daniel and erica didn't see each other's comments but both said the same thing: Daniel, "My life is full of meaning because I perceive it to be full of meaning". erica, "Nothing has meaning but what we give it, but that's good enough".

Let me see if anyone else jumps on this before I begin commenting.

thanks matthew. :)
Confederateson: I do live in Magic Land. We all live in Magic Land. Let me break the terms down for you. Magic = "Perspective" and Land = "Reality." Perspective is the "magic" by which we perceive the "land." I don't think it's logical to claim that my perspective is the correct form by which to perceive reality, and I don't think it's logical to claim that yours is either. And, really, I'll never have your persepctive and you'll never have mine. Even if we subscribed to the same system/worldview, there are an infinite amount of aspects within one perspective. It's what Derrida meant when he audaciously claimed that "all things are text." We are all part of our context, which is an impassible barrier that you cannot ever step out of.
Are we really sure that we know what we know? Of course not. And we can't know for sure whether we're actually living in reality or God's dream, or whatever. But those kinds of questions are fundamentally uninteresting because they don't accomplish anything. You can either bog yourself down in philosophical garbage, or you can solve problems. You can believe whatever you want, just don't expect anybody to take you seriously if you lack evidence for these beliefs. Unfortunately for Biblical literalists, the best way we have so far of gaining knowledge about world in which we live is the scientific method.

I recommend the book "Why People Believe Weird Things".
Erica, I disagree with that comment wholeheartedly. While I may not be able to solve anything tangible with an epistemilogical issue or answer, I think there is a lot to be learned existentially from asking such questions. I do tend to dabble more in the realm of metaphics, because I find it personally enjoyable and rewarding to attempt to understand Being as a concept and in practice. These are the fundamental issues that underlie problems with science, faith, etc. I find that in order to secure one's philosophy, way of life, state of mind, it is always better to have at least considered the greater epistemological and metaphysical questions. You may never come to a provable conclusion, but you will strengthen your existential well-being, which will in turn make your existence a much more honest one.

Unfortunately for Biblical literalists, the best way we have so far of gaining knowledge about world in which we live is the scientific method.

Yes, it is, if you buy into the presupposition that reality is accessible through empirical evidence. That's a rather large presupposition, and one, I fear, that many people cling onto as though it were Truth.
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